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dialogizomai

διαλογίζομαι

GreekG1260reason, discuss, ...

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Mat 16:7Mat 16:8Mat 21:25Mrk 2:6Mrk 2:8 (2×)Mrk 8:16Mrk 8:17Mrk 9:33Mrk 11:31Luk 1:29Luk 3:15Luk 5:21Luk 5:22Luk 12:17Luk 20:14
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What dialogizomai means

to reason a matter through, weighing it up point by point, whether silently in one's own mind or out loud with others

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At its root this verb pictures the work of an accountant: to run down a column of figures and reach a total. From there the Greeks used it for weighing up reasons in the mind, and then for talking a question over with other people. The New Testament keeps both branches, sorting them by the words that surround the verb: reasoning done in the heart is silent and private, while reasoning done back and forth with others is spoken.

What makes the word distinctive in the Gospels is how often it names reasoning gone wrong. Out of its fifteen Gospel appearances, most describe thinking that is faithless, self-serving, or hostile. Religious leaders reason silently that Jesus is a blasphemer. Chief priests and elders calculate how to answer him without losing face. The disciples fret among themselves that they have forgotten bread, moments after watching Jesus feed thousands. A rich man talks himself into building bigger barns while leaving God out of the account. In each case the point is less what these people conclude than that they are busy calculating at all, when they ought to be trusting.

A repeated touch is that Jesus perceives the silent version of this reasoning before anyone speaks. When the scribes work out their objection only in their hearts, he answers it aloud, a sign in the Gospels that he sees what only God can see.

Only in Luke's opening chapters does the word briefly recover a gentler shade. Mary turns over in her mind what the angel's greeting could mean, and the crowds wonder in their hearts whether John might be the Messiah. Even here the reasoning is puzzled rather than confident, but it is honest searching rather than scheming.

Nuances

1ato weigh a matter over silently within one's own mind, reasoning it through without speaking
Mrk 2:6Mrk 2:8 (2×)Luk 5:21Luk 5:22Luk 12:17
1bto talk a matter over with others, discussing or arguing it back and forth
Mat 16:7Mat 16:8Mat 21:25Mrk 8:16Mrk 8:17Mrk 9:33Mrk 11:31Luk 20:14
Mat 16:7

Whether the disciples' reasoning that they have no bread exposes a moral failure of faith, matching Jesus's rebuke about their little faith, or only intellectual slowness in missing the point of the feeding miracles.

  • majorityIt is a failure of trust; the reasoning shows their little faith.; W. D. Davies and Dale C. Allison, Matthew, ICC; Ulrich Luz, Matthew, Hermeneia
  • minorityIt is intellectual dullness rather than moral fault; they simply fail to grasp what they have witnessed.; Craig L. Blomberg, Matthew, NAC; John Nolland, The Gospel of Matthew, NIGTC
Mrk 9:33

Whether this verb here is effectively synonymous with the ordinary verb for arguing that Mark uses in the next verse, or retains a distinct shade of self-interested reckoning.

  • contestedThe two verbs are near-synonyms here; Mark varies the word for the same act of disputing.; R. T. France, The Gospel of Mark, NIGTC
  • contestedThe verb keeps a distinct shade from the plainer word for arguing, marking the reasoning as calculating.; Joel Marcus, Mark, Anchor Yale Bible
1cto ponder or wonder over something puzzling, turning it over reflectively in the heart
Luk 1:29Luk 3:15

Disputed

Whether the negative coloring the verb so often carries in the Gospels belongs to the word itself or arises only from its contexts. The Septuagint used the word-group heavily to translate Hebrew verbs for scheming and devising evil, and Schrenk argued this bent the sense so that the New Testament word is inherently, if slightly, depreciatory. Others insist the meaning stays neutral and the negativity is purely contextual, pointing to the reflective use in Luke 1:29 and 3:15. Balz and Schneider offer the mediating position now widely followed: the tendency is negative but the lexical meaning is not.

  • majorityIn New Testament usage the verb itself carries a slightly negative charge; the depreciation is part of the meaning it inherited from the Septuagint.; Gottlob Schrenk, διαλογίζομαι, TDNT 2:93-98; Colin Brown, ed., NIDNTT, s.v.; Moisés Silva, ed., NIDNTTE, s.v. διαλογίζομαι
  • minorityThe verb stays neutral in meaning; any negative force comes from the surrounding contexts, since Luke 1:29 and 3:15 show genuinely neutral or positive use.; I. Howard Marshall, The Gospel of Luke, NIGTC; Joseph A. Fitzmyer, The Gospel According to Luke, Anchor Bible; Darrell L. Bock, Luke, BECNT

What scholars say about dialogizomai

The lexica agree closely on the semantic field. LSJ traces the verb from the commercial sense (balance accounts) through calculate, consider, and debate, into the imperial administrative use (hold a provincial assize); Moulton-Milligan document both the accounting and the administrative branches in the papyri but note that the conventus sense never occurs in the NT, where the reference is always to inward deliberation or questioning. BDAG collapses the NT range into two operative categories keyed to syntax: reasoning within oneself (with ἐν τῇ καρδίᾳ, ἐν ἑαυτῷ) and verbal exchange with others (πρὸς ἀλλήλους, ἐν ἑαυτοῖς used reciprocally). Louw-Nida formalize this by placing the verb in two domains, Think (30.9) and Communication/dispute (33). Muraoka and LEH organize the Septuagint uses as ponder/deliberate, reckon-as/impute (a Hebraism, 2 Sam 19:20), and plot/devise, the last mostly of evil and clustered in the Psalter, where the verb renders חָשַׁב and מַחֲשָׁבָה (with זָמַם and הָגָה as secondary equivalents). Schrenk's TDNT article built the standard NT reading on this pattern, holding that the LXX bent the word-group toward a slightly depreciatory connotation, a claim echoed by Colin Brown's NIDNTT and Silva's NIDNTTE; Balz and Schneider's EDNT offer the mediating view that the tendency is negative without the lexical meaning being so. The formula reasoning in the heart is widely recognized as a Septuagintism grounded in Hebrew anthropology, in which the heart is the seat of rational deliberation and will (Wolff); commentators (France, Marcus, Collins, Fitzmyer, Bock) read the plural hearts as distributive rather than reciprocal, and stress that Jesus's perception of silent reasoning functions as a christological signal. The commercial and juridical overtones documented for the cognate noun (BDAG, Spicq, Moulton-Milligan) inform debate over James 2:4 but do not bear directly on the verb.

In-depth research

This is a research paper, so it may be hard to read without scholarly background. It is useful if you want to dig even deeper into this word.

Sources

  • BDAG, s.v. διαλογίζομαιlexicon
  • LSJ, s.v. διαλογίζομαι (9th ed. with Supplement)lexicon
  • Louw-Nida, Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament Based on Semantic Domains, §§30.9, 33lexicon
  • James Hope Moulton and George Milligan, The Vocabulary of the Greek Testament, s.v. διαλογίζομαιlexicon
  • Takamitsu Muraoka, A Greek-English Lexicon of the Septuagint, s.v. διαλογίζομαιlexicon
  • Lust-Eynikel-Hauspie, Greek-English Lexicon of the Septuagint, s.v. διαλογίζομαιlexicon
  • Gottlob Schrenk, διαλογίζομαι, TDNT 2:93-98dictionary
  • Colin Brown, ed., NIDNTT, s.v.dictionary
  • Moisés Silva, ed., NIDNTTE, s.v. διαλογίζομαιdictionary
  • Horst Balz and Gerhard Schneider, EDNT, s.v. διαλογίζομαιdictionary
  • Ceslas Spicq, Theological Lexicon of the New Testament, s.v. διαλογίζομαι, διαλογισμόςdictionary
  • R. T. France, The Gospel of Mark, NIGTCcommentary
  • Joel Marcus, Mark, Anchor Yale Biblecommentary
  • Adela Yarbro Collins, Mark, Hermeneiacommentary
  • Joseph A. Fitzmyer, The Gospel According to Luke, Anchor Biblecommentary
  • I. Howard Marshall, The Gospel of Luke, NIGTCcommentary
  • François Bovon, Luke, Hermeneiacommentary
  • Hans Walter Wolff, Anthropology of the Old Testamentmonograph

All attested forms of διαλογίζομαι

imperfect middle-or-passive indicative 3p

διελογίζοντο

Mat 16:7, Mat 21:25, Mrk 8:16, Mrk 11:31, Luk 20:14

present middle-or-passive indicative 2p

διαλογίζεσθε

Mat 16:8, Mrk 2:8, Mrk 8:17, Luk 5:22

imperfect middle-or-passive indicative 3s

διελογίζετο

Luk 1:29, Luk 12:17

imperfect middle-or-passive indicative 2p

διελογίζεσθε

Mrk 9:33

present middle-or-passive indicative 3p

διαλογίζονται

Mrk 2:8

present middle-or-passive infinitive

διαλογίζεσθαι

Luk 5:21

present middle-or-passive participle genitive m p

διαλογιζομένων

Luk 3:15

present middle-or-passive participle nominative m p

διαλογιζόμενοι

Mrk 2:6